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dollars in stimulus money, president obama's much-heralded -- well he heralded it, stimulus bill. infrastructure spending was supposed to be most of it. >> very good point. i don't have much to say about that. i mean these were supposed to be shovel-ready projects. >> and they weren't. >> well, they weren't. i mean some work did get done. it didn't do much to help unemployment and it didn't do much for our infrastructure. but we're talking about a trillion dollars. we're talking about huge amount of money that is needed. it's not just transportation, it's energy, it's water. so, there are huge investment opportunities. >> waste water, drinking water, energy transportation. but it's tricky here. because, you know, the chinese are going to have to navigate a whole bunch of regulatory rules, political obstacles, as well as. >> yeah. i mean, legal regulatory political mainly i mean people don't want the chinese, because they're -- so many of their companies are owned by the state. >> right. >> and they have a very big glass of transparency. you don't really know what's going on in th
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